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  • Jan started the conversation

    Hello Sonaar Team, i´m using a Sonaar Livetime Licence for my Podcast-Site Sagenwasist.com. I downloaded the theme again to get the latest version. And i installed the Podcastr demo.

    Where can i get the Statistics on how the often the podcast episodes have been downloaded or played. I checket out the theme-options but i neither find any thing to enable/disable stats, nor did i finde anything in the player-menue. 

    So i ask you, where can i get the stats for the player. 

  •  1,114
    Max replied

    Hi Jan,

    Unfortunately we don't have statistic in our theme. If you want statistics usually people refer to their podcast hosting to check the episode downloads (when the streams are hosted in the podcast hosting), or use Google Tag Manager to tracks stats about everything on your website. Google Tag Manager will probably require a developer to implement this for you tho.

    Thanks,


    Max from the Sonaar.io Crew

  • Jan replied

    Ok if there isn´t any statistic i can´t find it. Thats a good reason. I will try to find a wp statistic plugin which can handle custom post types like "Podcast Episodes"

    Greets from Germany
    Jan 

    PS. Have a nice day and keep healthy

  •  1,114
    Max replied

    Excellent Jan,

    by the way, if you find a great plugin about statistics, let the other users know by posting the plugin you've used. Im sure other people would be happy to hear!


    cheers,


    Thanks,


    Max from the Sonaar.io Crew

  • Jan replied

    Yes i will do so, 

    how can submit my website to maybe showed as example on your "Examples" page ?

    Greets

    Jan

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  • Jan replied

    Hello again Max,

    I have searched arround for a solution to get Stats for the Episodes. And i found 2 ways. The first one is to use a downloadtracker plugin. Which gives you a forwarding URL. And this you have to insert in the field "External File". So any time someone downloads the file on itunes or stitcher or another service the download will counted like it was a Download-Button for an ebook etc.

    But the problem with this method is, anytime someone plays the episode on the website by clicking the player it will be countet twice. So one download on itunes and one play on the website will be counted as 3. 

    I think this is because anytime you start to play an episode, you start two players, the episode player given by elementor, and the mp3-player down at the bottom ant the site. Given by your plugin. 
    The solution to bring precise numbers two the download-counter is, to switch of one of the players. In my opinion the player driven by elementor, because with your player you can hear the episode while browsing the site. But than we need to an option to make the player driven by your plugin visible from that moment the visitor comes to the episode page. so he can see where to click to play the episode. But not make it auto-play. Or make a button which does nothing than to start the plugin driven player.

    The second solution is, to install a podcast plugin which has a statistic function, and disable the podcast feed in the the settings of your player. And than use feed generated by the podcast-plugin. But here we have the problem, that the podcast plugin will generate episode posts by it self, and uses its own player on the website. Which may be not the problem, when we create a menue-structure, which not shows these posts. But now we have to do anything twice, first make an episode post for the podcast and than another one for the website. And in this solution the stats only counts the episodes downloaded by Itunes and so on. 

    If there is a possibility to bring the first solution up and running with only one player, than we even can use both, the podcast-plugin counts the itunes downloads, and the download-pluging counts the on site played episodes. 

    Helpful for the first method would be, to have two "external file fields" one like now, named "file for the player" and a second like "File for the feed" maybe with a checkbox "same as player" for those who dont need the field. or maybe deactivatable in screenoptions and/or theme options.
    With that field, we could use 2 forwarding Urls, counted seperately. And if we know the player counts double, we only need to devide its numbers by two. And we know the feed url will counted correct. So we get usable stats without a podcast plugin. 

  •  1,114
    Max replied

    Hello Jan,

    I understand the issue and the importance of it.

    Thanks for the suggestions as well, it's important for me.

    However, changing the behavior of the sticky player to avoid double audio loading (1 is for the sticky, the other is for the non-sticky vs single page episode) is very very complex on a technical point. That is something we'd like to optimize but that would imply a complete refactor of our audio/ajax/page loading script...I easily see more than 50 hours of work here.

    For now, we have a lot of things going on in our roadmap to improve Sonaar and Ill make sure to add the statistic to our roadmap. For now, it's not into our short/mid-term project, but when we will have more time we will sit down and see the proper way on how we could use statistics into the theme.

    Thank you,

    Thanks,


    Max from the Sonaar.io Crew

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